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GC_1000Watt
01-10 01:07 AM
Dont take this the wrong way. From what I have seen in my very brief history of following these forums, this is one of the few immigration forums out there that is not driven by ulterior motives - lawyers' interests etc. Please, please, as a favor, do not drag this effort down. I understand many of us are frustrated, but let not the frustration drag us down deeper into the hole. For people who don't agree with the policies here, put forth some constructive suggestions and see how that works. If it doesn't work, well you have realized how tough it is to get a group of people follow your conviction :) And then you might develop an appreciation for the work being done here.
And if your approach works, hey..excellent for all of us. But please don't put forth only negative criticism.
All the best to all of us.
Thanks.

I can see you history buddy. Just a second post since you joined in july 2007?
So let's not give you the authority of who is doing good and what needs to be done. Let us know if you have any good suggestions. Thanks.
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immi_twinges
07-17 01:21 PM
i am with you. we should request that USCIS recapture unused visas!

Lets ask Core not to just go with the temporary fix of July visa bulliten.
We might apply for EAD and AP but what if they throw our papers some where and repeat the same thing.
This time they will be very careful in issuing visa bulliten

In future very slow progression in visa dates...adjudicating cases very slowly always stating that due to july visa bulliten we have lots of cases ...we will not be able to do anything until we sort ou...blah blah...

This is not the fix
We should be firm with our goals...

Lets come up with some ideas....
Lets not ask what to do...lets think and come up with an idea...and then we shall decide if it works or not...
When some one first suggested flower campaign everyone took it as a joke...it was not implemented before some one sent the flowers and showed the receipt number...

I was following core for a long time...this the biggest response i have ever seen from the members...

Lets continue it...

My idea ...lets not just accept the temporary fix...we should fight the congress until they come up with a plan of fixing the GC issue.

The congress talks about fixing illegal immigration..Lets ask them to fix the legal immigration first.

Unless we are really strong about it...nothing can be accomplished..

They cant fix the existing legal system but they are ready with the plans of fixing illegal immigration...of course it failed but still they had big impact...
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wandmaker
12-01 08:53 PM
how about being a monthly charge of some amount to be members who can post/respond. Others can read but not post. This way you will know exactly how many paid members you have and amount you can expect monthly

how about breaking this into multiple levels.

(1) account maintenance fee: charge $1/month for maintaining the account, members who paid this fee will have read access to all threads except IV core updates. IV can generate $25K a month with this option, this can cover day to day expenses.

(2) usage fee: charge $??/month for using the IV forums, members who paid this free can post and respond and read IV updates.
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rustamehind
07-11 12:55 PM
Just wondering why USCIS is neither accepting nor rejecting the July 2nd application? How long can thy hold applications like this? Can they leverage this in their favour in the class action lawsuit? Is this procrastination deliberate , considering its legal implications?
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Openarms
06-12 11:54 AM
Is IV interested in doing a Freedom Of Information Act request to USCIS how and when they used up all visa numbers for EB3-India. That might show some information if they cooked the numbers if at all. We might get some more insight which monthly VISA bulletin does NOT give.
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malaGCPahije
03-13 12:04 PM
Good news and I am very happy for all Eb2...It seems like EB3 has not much hopes. It is moving at snail's pace, but with all the overflow from EB1 and ROWW going to EB2 only, looks like EB3 will take a long time to reach 2004/2005. If few of us in EB3 category get to see the GC before they leave the US, we should consider ourselves fortunate.
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eastindia
01-08 07:47 PM
This shows that the backlog is more than the numbers on USCIS website. People need to stop wasting time on tracking and spend time in their office work. Backlog means more business money for lawyers and trackers. IV is very small. Unless IV had hundreds of thousands of members, they cannot do lobbying like AILA or Microsoft. EB3 India and now EB3ROW is in a pitiable state. All those EB3ROW who used to be happy will now see the reality. Thank god I ported to EB2 but the dates for EB2 do not move enough. I think anyone who can should port to EB2 ASAP. This is the only solution.
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coopheal
07-30 07:06 AM
Thanks for this information. I took liberty of putting this on IV wiki.
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Commodity_Trading
Please update the wiki if you would like to add/update your original comments.


Dont even think about it unless you are a quant and have resources that can compete with the Hedge funds.
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You have better chance of hitting a jackpot in a casino than making money in trading commodities.
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PHANI_TAVVALA
05-07 03:43 PM
First of all Congratulations desi#### and thanks for continuing to support IV.

Interesting discussion going on. Yes, I agree that most of us here are waiting for our GC and some of them go on to become US Citizens.
I believe that becoming a citizen of any country is a person's choice, so let us not give desi### a hard time here.:o
But I certainly do not think it is an 'achievement' to get a US citizenship, just because it implies indirectly it is an 'achievement' to let go off Indian citizenship. Nothing meant to offend you desi#### but it hurts when one reads such a statement somewhere deep inside the mind. But hey, as I said earlier, to each his own and noone should be judging others in their decisions.
And it is not only Indians becoming US citizens every year. There are others too.
Personally, even with all the advantages as stated above of being a US citizen, I will never let go of my Indian passport. Even if the authorities give it to me tomorrow in a lottery;) Never.
Why? Because my identity, my rich heritage, my family roots, my parents, my culture everything is Indian and am proud of it. There are lot of sentimental and emotional attachments. I was going through the OCI articles today after reading this discussion.
It is not exactly a dual citizenship. Some clauses are no voting rights! No Indian Passport!
Getting a GC is another thing, but when I decide to go back after a couple of years, I would definitely want to retain my voting rights. ! I rest my case.

I totally understand the emotional point of someone being want to be a Indian Citizen but I have to stress there is no other country in the world like U.S.A. This is the country where every human being is treated with utmost respect (don't try to show me exceptions - U.S. is a country where most of things are close to being perfect imaginatively), have freedom to say anything they want without getting intimidated and U.S is a country I believe will be the last bastion for humanity when terrosists/fundamentalists spread their tentancles and take over the world by force or other means (if not now probabbly in the next 100-150 years). Hypocrisy is relatively less. We Indians live in a dream world nurtured by the Indian politicians, who try to inject doses of patriotic non-sense into the masses while they themselves stove away million of dollars in Swiss banks. 70% of Indian population lives below poverty line and the educated masses of India think that their country will become a super power by 2020. Politicians like Mayawati play caste politics and dream of taking the top most post while our liberal media, without a wee-bit of shame, extends its highest support for them. Corruption is part of our daily life and we are part of the everyday corruption but we still find no fault in our society. Our population growth is beyond control while not a single politician is concerned about the stress it is going to create on our natural resources in the future. Our education system is in shambles but our great politicians fight for increasing the reservation system to different castes just for the sake of garnering more votes. And the list goes on. Alas���God help India.

FYI: I am a Indian and haven't even started my greencard process, for the same emotional reasons you mentioned, intending to R2I soon. Given a choice and circumstances, I would have opted for U.S.C as "I have no hope for this world neither do I wish for it" - quoting Bhagawan Krishna from Bhagavad Gita.
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bkarnik
04-26 02:11 PM
Snowshoe:

Good luck is fine...but do not say good bye yet. :) We need your story too. See threads elsewhere in this forum.
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nixstor
05-23 04:52 PM
if you all use little more IQ, you will realize that only with donation/money you will make a difference.
We all are here to make someone rich(employers, local businesses). So if you can make polititians rich, they will do something for you!
So stop calling... start donating to IV...

Let me know if my thought is wrong!

Money is important and has its place in the process. Grass roots effort is also important. What would you tell if some one asks which eye is more important to you? left or right? If this Q was a stretch, ignore it. I just used it to tell that $$ and grass roots efforts are important

Money does not get every thing done. Corp America is doing everything they can to get H1B numbers increased. Do you think they are being stingy with the money they need to spend? They have stronger opposing grass roots groups like Numbers USA, FAIR etc. Our issue is a lot less volatile compared to the H1B increase issue. How ever our issue is unknown to many lawmakers until recently. I am positive that some members came to know about the bills when we called them or have been approached by our state chapters.
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gcisadawg
08-13 08:48 AM
EB3 I is going to have a long wait. I had applied for Canadian green card and had received it. At present i have EAD and AP. Is it worthwhile to go into consular processing and work in canada or apply for a blue card or think about Australia. If this sounds okay how should i proceed.

Jose Thomas

What is your PD? Your profile says you are July Filer and your labor approval date is in 2008. Maybe a typo? I think if your PD is before 2003 for EB-3 I, there is hope of getting GC by end of 2010. Otherwise, it could be a really long wait without any legislative changes.
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chanukya
02-05 05:22 PM
IV has to priorotize before going to a lobbyist, with very very few contributions made, its very difficult to have everything bundled into a single request.

Its also unfair that L1 has to work for specific company but L1 spouces can work for any company any job, its so funny, when you think H1 has to work for specfic company and only for specfic job, but spouces can work for any compnay any job any salary without any labor department intervention

Immmigration awareness has increased a lot among US voters, when it comes to threat of their jobs being lost, and democratic senators are very much aware of it, hence CIR is no longer their priority.






I am not fighting but YES, my reason to join IV was to find justice to the H-4 not being able to work when L-1 spouses and Agjob spouses (I read this a year ago) could. Although no promises were made from IV, I was surpired today since nothing was ever said regarding no interest in the H-4 cause when many discussion were in place. Here people contribute for their own benefits, I was here for the H-4s, that is why I transcribed part of the conference calls too, so I was somehow a contributer to a cause that doesn't represnt my interests, but I know it represents the interests of the unmarried folks, or married to IT spouses folks.
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logiclife
04-07 11:14 AM
So we have an amendment that deals with Immigration Voice's goals - http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=521. Now what?

The Brownback amendment that benefits all of us in one way or other is on the table for the immigration bill(Specter’s, Frist’s whichever). Thanks to Senator Brownback, his staff, our counsel QGA, our friends in AZ and PA(not in core IV team) who played a key role in convincing the staff and Senator about our problems and solutions and MOST IMPORTANTLY - YOU - the volunteers and members who supported this operation financially and morally.

Friends, the game has just begun. The fun part, the challenging part comes now. Those who are familiar with S 1932 know that the real deal is the house-senate conference committee IF the immigration bill gets any traction in Senate post recess. In a rare event that immigration bill is ignored this year, we need to focus on getting these amendments in other bills like PACE act, TALENT bill etc. Immigration Voice’s morale is like DURACELL – IT NEVER DIES. NEVER NEVER NEVER.

So , before we open that Champagne bottle let's make sure that we are ready for the next stages in this effort:

1. Getting majority of Senators to vote "Yes" on our amendment.
2. Getting the opposing amendments to defeat the good stuff out of the senate bill.
3. Protecting this amendment in the House-Senate Conference Committee.
4. Defeating the harmful provisions that may be injected by more creative minds in the House during House-Senate Conf.
5. Continued efforts to find another bill for our provisions if the immigration bill fails. (Unlikely because of millions of undocumented workers holding rallies. Something WILL HAPPEN).

All this is going to take lobbying, grass-roots efforts and a lot of work.

So now, we regroup. We gain strength. Lend a hand to the fence-sitters to join us. Convince the NAYSAYERS that this works. And we raise more funds.

Today, IV Core group sincerely requests members to whole-heartedly contribute just like you contributed before. Let's give this movement a momentum so strong and powerful that its invincible. Let us get all hands on deck.

THE GOAL:

The goal is to raise another 75,000 in 25 days. That will bring the total contributions to around 150,000 by the first of May.

We have always asked people to contribute whole-heartedly as this is a non-profit operation, no core member or volunteer makes any money on this and we are accountable to IRS due to our non-profit tax status. We have always done EVERYTHING LEGALLY and will continue to do things legally. If in doubt, please visit the menu "Lobbying and the Law" on the homepage. Remember, the core members want their greencards too and they wouldnt be doing things that are illegal and risk their own greencard applications.

Conribute and be a part of most successful organized effort ever done by a bunch of high-skills legal immigrants. Be a part of movement that will make you proud for the rest of your life. Something to tell your children about. A few hundred dollars saved by not contributing will not make you happier. I can guarantee you that. The money I contributed to IV has been the most well-spent amount in 6 years of my time in US. And dont ever rely on "Others will do it and I can evade this as one person wont make difference" will NEVER WORK. It never does. If you think that there are friends that are affected by retrogression then call them, show them the amendment and tell them to stand up and support this.

Thanks, and make this another successful round of donations. Here is a link to our contributions page - http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44

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smartboy75
10-01 02:20 PM
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hey wawa / prince7

I sent you a private message ...kindly respond...
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dewang_lakhani@yahoo.com
01-19 09:13 AM
i am ready to contribute...please count me in...

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asanghi
02-13 07:18 PM
A lot of people, including me have lost faith in IV. They are not going to pay. We don't know what IV is working on and we don't believe it can do anything. The sooner IV accepts it, the better. I have seen this personally in talking to people and you can see the evidence with less than 300 people contributing. IV needs to produce results first.

Before you ladies jump on me with your (p)curses for personal attacks, read on.

IV needs to figure out other ways to generate cash if it thinks that would help. One way would be advertising on the site. I think IV has built this website well and it is an asset it needs to use NOW. I believe IV can charge up to $10,000 a day for advertising on the website. That would be $300,000/month or $3.6 million a year. Even $3000/day would result in over $1 million. That should not be very difficult to do.


That I completely agree with. In fact to start with google adsense is good. I think IV was looking into it. But it did not happen.

I wonder if there was any reason why IV could not do it. If IV does it, it can generate additional funds, and with the number of visitors these funds can be significant.
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answers_seeker
07-18 01:50 PM
Thanks...but isn't the post mark date is when you send the mail ?

Right.But in your case, the guy who recieved your packet..might have mistakenly stamped the postmark date as the RD date . If so that is definitely their mistake. Wait a week or so to see what happens and if you dont' hear anything, take an infopass appointment to sort it out.
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Vexir
06-19 10:36 PM
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misanthrope
10-03 03:48 PM
on how you intentionally lied to get into US?

Your post subject has grammatical errors. Please look into it. Thanks.
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anands26
02-13 10:06 PM
Ok, if advertising is too far-fetched, then hold some cultural events and make money on those. Brainstorm with members to find other ways to make money. People are not going to contribute. That is the writing on the wall. There is lack of trust and lack of faith in IV. IV will have to figure out ways to generate cash from other things than member contributions. If I remember correctly, people contributed nearly $200K and have got nothing to show for that.

These suggestions are because you think money is the issue. I don't think it is. It's the lack of good leadership. That is my opinion and it was point of my original posting. Lack of money is being blamed wrongly. But may be I am wrong.

Attack my ideas and not me. Then we can have a debate conducive to achieving our goals.
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